我得机器中了灰鸽子，本来想装过系统，怎么好像光驱又有问题。求助啊

下面是日志：


Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 23:58:07, on 2005-8-5
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\Ravmond.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdfmgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVTIMER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\zhu\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.384\HijackThis.exe

R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {2C5AA40E-8814-4EB6-876E-7EFB8B3F9662} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: IeCatch2 Class - {A5366673-E8CA-11D3-9CD9-0090271D075B} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\jccatch.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O2 - BHO: BDHlprObj Class - {CA92B524-BC8A-4610-BD2C-6BD3E28155D0} - C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\BDHelper.dll
O3 - Toolbar: FlashGet Bar - {E0E899AB-F487-11D5-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\fgiebar.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: 电台(&R) - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IMJPMIG8.1] "C:\WINDOWS\IME\imjp8_1\IMJPMIG.EXE" /Spoil /RemAdvDef /Migration32
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PHIME2002ASync] C:\WINDOWS\System32\IME\TINTLGNT\TINTSETP.EXE /SYNC
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PHIME2002A] C:\WINDOWS\System32\IME\TINTLGNT\TINTSETP.EXE /IMEName
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinampAgent] "C:\Program Files\Winamp\Winampa.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BIE] Rundll32 C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\BDPlugin.dll,Rundll32
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VPP] C:\Program Files\VPP\vpp.exe /A
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RavTimer] C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVTIMER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RavMon] C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVMON.EXE -SYSTEM
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: 使用网际快车下载 - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_link.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 使用网际快车下载全部链接 - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_all.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ自定义面板 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\AddPanel.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ表情 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\AddEmotion.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 用QQ彩信发送该图片 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\SendMMS.htm
O9 - Extra button: vpp共享下载软件 - {0713E8D2-850A-101B-AFC0-4210102A8DA7} - C:\Program Files\VPP\vpp.exe (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: kele8 - {84920E5F-3788-49cd-A274-E365578DF174} - http://www.kele8.com/ (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: kele8 - {84920E5F-3788-49cd-A274-E365578DF174} - http://www.kele8.com/ (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 词霸 - {9A687CA6-D585-4947-9ED9-BE96071F5CD9} - C:\PROGRA~1\Kingsoft\POWERW~1\XDictExB.dll
O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O9 - Extra button: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\flashget.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: &FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\flashget.exe
O16 - DPF: {0CA54D3F-CEAE-48AF-9A2B-31909CB9515D} (Edit Class) - https://www.sz1.cmbchina.com/download/CMBEdit.cab
O16 - DPF: {488A4255-3236-44B3-8F27-FA1AECAA8844} (CEditCtrl Object) - https://www.alipay.com/download/aliedit.cab
O16 - DPF: {52A05F4B-9F0C-4752-BB78-9B6DFD2DE9D5} (HdwCode Control) - http://www.chinaacc.com/plugin/HdwCode.cab
O16 - DPF: {73E4740C-08EB-4133-896B-8D0A7C9EE3CD} (AxInputControl Class) - https://mybank.icbc.com.cn/icbc/perbank/AxSafeControls.cab
O16 - DPF: {ABA7CC7F-019D-47DB-A0D2-B3C2B3AC1B44} (Fc2Boot Class) - http://210.51.5.80/fun/system/fc2boot.cab
O16 - DPF: {E4E2F180-CB8B-4DE9-ACBB-DA745D3BA153} (Rising Web Scan Object) - http://download.rising.com.cn/register/pcver/autoupgradepad/Ver2005/OL2005.cab
O16 - DPF: {EF6205C1-3F17-4829-BCB5-1336ED89E356} (KvScanOnline Control) - http://club.jiangmin.com/kvscan/KvDown.cab
O18 - Protocol: about - {3050F406-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: cdl - {3DD53D40-7B8B-11D0-B013-00AA0059CE02} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: dic - {C21F5C32-F57A-4A0D-8E0A-B672691C52D0} - C:\PROGRA~1\Kingsoft\POWERW~1\XDictExB.dll
O18 - Protocol: dvd - {12D51199-0DB5-46FE-A120-47A3D7D937CC} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvidctl.dll
O18 - Protocol: file - {79EAC9E7-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: ftp - {79EAC9E3-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: gopher - {79EAC9E4-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: http - {79EAC9E2-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: https - {79EAC9E5-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: ipp - (no CLSID) - (no file)
O18 - Protocol: its - {9D148291-B9C8-11D0-A4CC-0000F80149F6} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\itss.dll
O18 - Protocol: javascript - {3050F3B2-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: local - {79EAC9E7-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: mailto - {3050F3DA-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: mhtml - {05300401-BCBC-11D0-85E3-00C04FD85AB4} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\inetcomm.dll
O18 - Protocol: mk - {79EAC9E6-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
O18 - Protocol: ms-its - {9D148291-B9C8-11D0-A4CC-0000F80149F6} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\itss.dll
O18 - Protocol: msdaipp - (no CLSID) - (no file)
O18 - Protocol: res - {3050F3BC-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: sysimage - {76E67A63-06E9-11D2-A840-006008059382} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: tv - {CBD30858-AF45-11D2-B6D6-00C04FBBDE6E} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvidctl.dll
O18 - Protocol: vbscript - {3050F3B2-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll
O18 - Protocol: vnd.ms.radio - {3DA2AA3B-3D96-11D2-9BD2-204C4F4F5020} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O18 - Protocol: wia - {13F3EA8B-91D7-4F0A-AD76-D2853AC8BECE} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wiascr.dll
O23 - Service: Retrieves the serial number (Portable Media Serial) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\IEXPL0RE.EXE
O23 - Service: Rising Process Communication Center (RsCCenter) - rising - C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
O23 - Service: RsRavMon Service (RsRavMon) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\Ravmond.exe

我的电脑今晚刚中了"灰鸽子"!!!!怎么办??
名字叫"Backdoor/Huigezi.2004.er"
我看了几个清除方法但是看不懂~~怎么办,高手快来~~~~~~

好象没有看到灰鸽子

不会把，没有看见病毒，我用瑞星杀得了，但是重启以后，又有了，请哪位高手帮忙看看哦

老兄看看我的日志倒数第2条条和你是1摸1样的啊   
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 12:52:31, on 2005-8-6
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\Ravmond.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\RavStub.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Program Files\P4P\p2psvr.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMAgent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMTray.exe
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVTIMER.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.exe
C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\Rav.exe
G:\HijackThis.exe

R3 - URLSearchHook: MyURLSearchHook Class - {982CB676-38F0-4D9A-BB72-D9371ABE876E} - C:\PROGRA~1\P4P\ToolBar.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {046167AA-53C2-4576-B362-291D9E852269} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\BBDown.dll
O2 - BHO: CPub Object - {0CA51D02-7739-43EA-8D9A-1E8AD4327B03} - C:\Program Files\P4P\SoDAIE.dll
O2 - BHO: Router Layer - {5EB7CB50-E375-4718-B4C0-9AD12EFA2F84} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\aclayer.dll
O2 - BHO: IeCatch2 Class - {A5366673-E8CA-11D3-9CD9-0090271D075B} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\jccatch.dll
O2 - BHO: 上网助手 - {BB936323-19FA-4521-BA29-ECA6A121BC78} - C:\Program Files\3721\Assist\asbar.dll
O2 - BHO: IE - {D157330A-9EF3-49F8-9A67-4141AC41ADD4} - C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\CnsHook.dll
O2 - BHO: DragSearch BHO - {EF1D17A9-089F-40cc-8D64-7324CDEBA0DB} - C:\PROGRA~1\yisou\yisoub.dll
O3 - Toolbar: FlashGet Bar - {E0E899AB-F487-11D5-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\fgiebar.dll
O3 - Toolbar: 上网助手 - {BB936323-19FA-4521-BA29-ECA6A121BC78} - C:\Program Files\3721\Assist\asbar.dll
O3 - Toolbar: 搜狗直通车 - {DBBB7978-AF21-4EF4-9AD1-B2F4BC75696C} - C:\PROGRA~1\P4P\ToolBar.dll
O3 - Toolbar: 一搜工具条 - {115F6E46-FCBC-41ed-B3B5-3BDDD4AAB5E5} - C:\Program Files\yisou\yisou.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Smapp] C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATIPTA] C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RavTimer] C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVTIMER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RavMon] C:\PROGRA~1\RISING\RAV\RAVMON.EXE -SYSTEM
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [100bao] E:\PROGRA~1\100bao\100bao.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [helper.dll] C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\PROGRA~1\3721\helper.dll,Rundll32
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CnsMin] Rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\CnsMin.dll,Rundll32
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: !搜一搜 - res://C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\CnsMinEx.dll/1003
O8 - Extra context menu item: 使用搜狗直通车下载 - C:\PROGRA~1\P4P\dl.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 使用网际快车下载 - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_link.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 使用网际快车下载全部链接 - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_all.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 导出到 Microsoft Office Excel(&X) - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ自定义面板 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\AddPanel.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ表情 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\AddEmotion.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 用QQ彩信发送该图片 - C:\Program Files\Tencent\qq\SendMMS.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 豪杰超级解霸V8实时播放 - C:\Herosoft\HeroV8\MPURLGET.HTM
O9 - Extra button: 手机短信 - {00000000-0000-0001-0001-596BAEDD1289} - http://sms.3721.com/ie/index.htm?pid=U_baibao_68508 (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 浩方对战平台 - {0A155D3C-68E2-4215-A47A-E800A446447A} - F:\浩方对战平台\GameClient.exe
O9 - Extra button: 手机彩信 - {11111111-F40A-11D1-B792-444553540001} - http://www.icqmm.com (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 手机彩信 - {11111111-F40A-11D1-B792-444553540001} - http://www.icqmm.com (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 豪杰超级解霸V8 - {367E0A21-8601-4986-9C9A-153BF5ACA118} - C:\Herosoft\HeroV8\STHSDVD.EXE
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 豪杰超级解霸V8 - {367E0A21-8601-4986-9C9A-153BF5ACA118} - C:\Herosoft\HeroV8\STHSDVD.EXE
O9 - Extra button: Yahoo 1G电邮 - {507F9113-CD77-4866-BA92-0E86DA3D0B97} - http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/promo/rd1 (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 寻宝乐趣多 - {59BC54A2-56B3-44a0-93E5-432D58746E26} - http://hot.3721.com/rd/shop_btn.htm (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 上网助手 - {5D73EE86-05F1-49ed-B850-E423120EC338} - http://assistant.3721.com/index.htm?fb=Cns (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: JUJU猫 - {6096E38F-5AC1-4391-8EC4-75DFA92FB32F} - http://www.jujumao.net (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: SoQ - {8F67DCF3-B1DF-4A39-A787-3775784BF737} - http://www.soq.com (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 易趣购物 - {BE9C13C3-9E46-4db1-BC05-BD8DA44599F2} - http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/4080-23171-9517-205?cn=song;icon;hp&mpro=http://www.ebay.com.cn (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 易趣购物 - {BE9C13C3-9E46-4db1-BC05-BD8DA44599F2} - http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/4080-23171-9517-205?cn=song;icon;hp&mpro=http://www.ebay.com.cn (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\flashget.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: &FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\PROGRA~1\FLASHGET\flashget.exe
O9 - Extra button: 情景聊天 - {E5D12C4E-7B4F-11D3-B5C9-0050045C3C96} - http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/home/messenger/bjk/clientbtn/?http://cn.messenger.yahoo.com/ (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {ECF2E268-F28C-48d2-9AB7-8F69C11CCB71} - http://assistant.3721.com/security1.htm?fb=Cns (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 修复浏览器 - {ECF2E268-F28C-48d2-9AB7-8F69C11CCB71} - http://assistant.3721.com/security1.htm?fb=Cns (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {FD00D911-7529-4084-9946-A29F1BDF4FE5} - http://assistant.3721.com/clean1.htm?fb=Cns (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 清理上网记录 - {FD00D911-7529-4084-9946-A29F1BDF4FE5} - http://assistant.3721.com/clean1.htm?fb=Cns (file missing)
O11 - Options group: [!CNS]  上网助手-地址栏搜索
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{2ECEA598-5732-4066-BDA3-4C20FDDA9E04}: NameServer = 202.96.97.242 202.101.172.47
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SoDAHK.DLL
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: Imapserver (Human Interface Device Access) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\svchost.exe
O23 - Service: P4P Service - Sohu R&D - C:\Program Files\P4P\p2psvr.exe
O23 - Service: Rising Process Communication Center (RsCCenter) - rising - C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
O23 - Service: RsRavMon Service (RsRavMon) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\Ravmond.exe
O23 - Service: SoundMAX Agent Service (SoundMAX Agent Service (default)) - Analog Devices, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMAgent.exe

【回复“zhq01”的帖子】
O23 - Service: Retrieves the serial number (Portable Media Serial) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\IEXPL0RE.EXE
灰鸽子。查杀方法可参考：http://forum.ikaka.com/topic.asp?board=28&artid=6202404