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royfewe - 2006-7-14 20:22:00
安全模式下也杀不了啊
于维克托 - 2006-7-15 11:18:00
学习之.
非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 10:04:00
O23 - Service: WinWrCup - MsWinCup - C:\WINDOWS\wincup\wincup.exe
这个是什么意思啊  什么问题啊  我是菜鸟  我不懂
郭郭gg - 2006-7-16 10:20:00
禁用掉WinWrCup - MsWinCup
我找不到这个服务啊
注册表
展开
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Uninstall\
删除WinWrCup 文件夹..

展开
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\
删除 LEGACY_WINWRCUP 文件夹..
都找不到.
可是开机还会跳出病毒提示
非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 10:32:00
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 9:42:32, on 2006-7-16
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\Ravmond.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\RavStub.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\Program Files\GAOV\Mysee Alert\Mysee Alert.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\downfile.exe
C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\RavTask.exe
C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\Ravmon.exe
C:\Program Files\CNNIC\Cdn\cdnup.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\bgswitch.exe
C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\TIMPlatform.exe
C:\WINDOWS\wincup\wincup.exe
C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\QQ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\mcq\adout.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS\Photoshop.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\HijackThis.exe

R3 - URLSearchHook: Tencent SearchHook - {DB8B2393-7A6C-4C76-88CE-6B1F6FF6FFE9} - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\Adplus\SSAddr.dll
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe,C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Crypto\fafbce.exe
O2 - BHO: 搜搜地址栏搜索 - {0C7C23EF-A848-485B-873C-0ED954731014} - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\Adplus\SSAddr.dll
O2 - BHO: QQIEHelper - {54EBD53A-9BC1-480B-966A-843A333CA162} - C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\QQIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: CdnForIE Class - {5C3853CF-C7E0-4946-B3FA-1ABDB6F48108} - C:\PROGRA~1\CNNIC\Cdn\cdnforie.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {669751ED-D558-49AE-B01A-3B374CC7910E} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ssup.dll
O2 - BHO: IEHlprObj Class - {999ADFA2-8AD1-47ff-97FC-69FB847458F4} - C:\Progra~1\NetMeeting\nmview.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll (file missing)
O3 - Toolbar: 卡卡上网安全助手 - {DB9ECD4F-FB8F-4311-B3CE-90B976C2707C} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\kakatool.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] ; "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe"  -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MoveSearch] C:\Program Files\HuaCi\huaci\zsearch.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Mysee Alert] "C:\Program Files\GAOV\Mysee Alert\Mysee Alert.exe" -notray
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [zmuy9s5p] RunDll32 "C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\zmuy9s5p.dll",Run
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [downfile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\downfile.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RavTask] "C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\RavTask.exe" -system
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [jiuwl2ig] RunDll32 "C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\jiuwl2ig.dll",Run
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CdnCtr] C:\Program Files\CNNIC\Cdn\cdnup.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [stup.exe] C:\PROGRA~1\TENCENT\Adplus\stup.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [Super Rabbit Winspeed] "F:\超级\IEG\winspeed.exe" /autokill:122,105,84,56,18,5,129,128,127,126,125,124,123,121,120,119,118,117,116,115,114,113,112,111,110,109,108,107,106,104,103,102,101,100,99,98,97,96,95,94,93,92,91,90,89,88,87,86,85,83,82,81,80,79,76,75,74,73,72,71,70,69,68,67,66,65,64,63,62,61,60,59,58,57,55,54,53,52,51,50,49,48,47,46,45,44,43,42,41,40,39,38,37,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23,22,21,20,19,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,4,3,2,1
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [RavStub] "C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\ravstub.exe" /RUNONCE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [LetsCool] C:\Program Files\LetsCool\LetsCool.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [msnnt] C:\WINDOWS\mcUpdate.exe
O4 - Startup: 腾讯QQ.lnk = C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\QQ.exe
O4 - Global Startup: 壁纸自动换.lnk = C:\WINDOWS\system32\bgswitch.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: Google 搜索(&G) - res://c:\program files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: 上传到QQ网络硬盘 - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\AddToNetDisk.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ自定义面板 - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\AddPanel.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 添加到QQ表情 - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\AddEmotion.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: 用QQ彩信发送该图片 - C:\Program Files\TENCENT\qq\SendMMS.htm
O9 - Extra button: 中文上网 - {5C3853CF-C7E0-4946-B3FA-1ABDB6F48108} - C:\PROGRA~1\CNNIC\Cdn\cdnforie.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 中文上网 - {5C3853CF-C7E0-4946-B3FA-1ABDB6F48108} - C:\PROGRA~1\CNNIC\Cdn\cdnforie.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191}? - C:\WINDOWS\system32\shdocvw.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 彩E精灵设置 - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191}? - C:\WINDOWS\system32\shdocvw.dll
O9 - Extra button: QQ - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157b} - C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\QQ.EXE
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: 腾讯QQ - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157b} - C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\QQ.EXE
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DEDEB80D-FA35-45d9-9460-4983E5A8AFE6} - C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\QQIEHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: QQ炫彩工具条设置 - {DEDEB80D-FA35-45d9-9460-4983E5A8AFE6} - C:\Program Files\Tencent\QQ\QQIEHelper.dll
O9 - Extra button: 访问瑞星网站 - {FF2DE7A6-ECB1-4CBC-9C0E-D92A9E66E444} - http://www.rising.com.cn/?u=RSTB (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: 访问卡卡社区 - {FF2DE7A6-ECB1-4CBC-9C0E-D92A9E66E445} - http://www.ikaka.com/?u=RSTB (file missing)
O10 - Broken Internet access because of LSP provider 'c:\windows\system32\cdnns.dll' missing
O11 - Options group: [CDNCLIENT]  中文上网
O11 - Options group: [TBH] 搜搜地址栏搜索
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{AAA67448-EDC0-4087-A296-9B55A9C9F59C}: NameServer = 61.147.37.1,1.0.0.0
O21 - SSODL: SysTime - {724C75F1-B757-408D-A50A-4CF99DA35D73} - C:\PROGRA~1\WinKld\WinKld.dll
O23 - Service: Rising Process Communication Center (RsCCenter) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\PROGRAM FILES\RISING\RAV\CCENTER.EXE
O23 - Service: RsRavMon Service (RsRavMon) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\Program Files\Rising\Rav\Ravmond.exe
O23 - Service: WinWrCup - MsWinCup - C:\WINDOWS\wincup\wincup.exe

非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 10:33:00
帮我看看有没有问题 好么
郭郭gg - 2006-7-16 10:53:00
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Uninstall\
找到了那个文件夹.别的都找不到了.删了.重起开机还是提示病毒
郭郭gg - 2006-7-16 11:06:00
请问。34楼的怎么把那些弄出来啊?我想看看
非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 17:23:00
谢谢啊  我要弄了  好的帖子  就是有用
非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 17:24:00
把日志弄粘上来就可以了

非妳吥可 - 2006-7-16 17:27:00
http://forum.ikaka.com/topic.asp?board=28&artid=8105899把日志粘上来
郭郭gg - 2006-7-16 17:37:00
谢谢啊.
HijackThis_815汉化版扫描日志 V1.99.1
保存于      17:25:56, 日期 2006-7-16
操作系统:  Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
浏览器:    Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

当前运行的进程:         
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\CCenter.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\Ravmond.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\RavStub.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\RavTask.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\Ravmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\rundll32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
E:\TT\TTraveler.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\Rav.exe
C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\RsAgent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\msagent\AgentSvr.exe
F:\WOW\Hijackthis1991zww\HijackThis1991zww.exe

R3 - URLSearchHook: bho Class - {ED8DFC5C-10EF-45AB-9DC2-0639AFF5A270} - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Wnwb\wnwbio.dll
O2 - BHO: ThunderIEHelper - {0005A87D-D626-4B3A-84F9-1D9571695F55} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\xunleibho_v11.dll
O2 - BHO: QQIEHelper - {54EBD53A-9BC1-480B-966A-843A333CA162} - E:\QQ2004\QQIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: YDragSearch - {62EED7C6-9F02-42f9-B634-98E2899E147B} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\ASSIST~1\Assist\YDRAGS~1.DLL (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Vision - {6671A431-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O2 - BHO: stdup - {6A512BF7-EC78-4e8d-9841-6C02E8FA9838} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\stdup.dll
O2 - BHO: update wnwb - {ED8DFC5C-10EF-45AB-9DC2-0639AFF5A270} - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Wnwb\wnwbio.dll
O3 - IE工具栏增项: (no name) - {E0E899AB-F487-11D5-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - (no file)
O3 - IE工具栏增项: 金山快译(&K) - {6C3797D2-3FEF-4cd4-B654-D3AE55B4128C} - C:\PROGRA~1\Kingsoft\FASTAI~1\IEBand.dll
O3 - IE工具栏增项: CopySo拷贝搜 - {40987A5C-6AB8-4977-8BE9-A8889DE2EDCC} - C:\Program Files\Copyso\CopysoIE-2006-04-27-22-34-54.dll
O3 - IE工具栏增项: 电台(&R) - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O4 - 启动项HKLM\\Run: [RavTask] "C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\RavTask.exe" -system
O4 - 启动项HKLM\\Run: [rfw] C:\Program Files\rising\Rfw\Rfw.exe
O4 - 启动项HKLM\\Run: [RavTimer] C:\Program Files\rising\rav\RavTimer.exe
O4 - 启动项HKLM\\RunOnce: [RavStub] "C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\ravstub.exe" /RUNONCE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目:  >> 彩信发送 << - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\Mmsass~1.dll/mms.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: !CopySo拷贝搜 - res://C:\Program Files\Copyso\CopysoIE.dll/copyso.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: !全球排名 - res://C:\Program Files\Copyso\CopysoIE.dll/tops.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: !反向链接 - res://C:\Program Files\Copyso\CopysoIE.dll/snapshot.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: !网页快照 - res://C:\Program Files\Copyso\CopysoIE.dll/similar.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: &使用迅雷下载 - E:\新歌1\Thunder讯雷\geturl.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: &使用迅雷下载全部链接 - E:\新歌1\Thunder讯雷\getallurl.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: >>彩信发送<< - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll/mms.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: 上传到QQ网络硬盘 - E:\QQ2004\AddToNetDisk.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: 导出到 Microsoft Office Excel(&X) - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: 添加到QQ自定义面板 - E:\QQ2004\AddPanel.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: 添加到QQ表情 - E:\QQ2004\AddEmotion.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: 用QQ彩信发送该图片 - E:\QQ2004\SendMMS.htm
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: 浩方对战平台 - {0A155D3C-68E2-4215-A47A-E800A446447A} - E:\浩方平台\新平台\GameClient.exe
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: 新浪UC - {2253922F-1B26-4C74-8B57-E3AEE748DBB8} - E:\UC\uc.exe
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: (no name) - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: 彩E精灵设置 - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: 信息检索 - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:\WINDOWS\web\related.htm
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: QQ - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157b} - E:\QQ2004\QQ.EXE
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: 腾讯QQ - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157b} - E:\QQ2004\QQ.EXE
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: 易趣购物 - {DE607143-AC19-423e-866A-6D70ABDF119A} - http://click2.ad4all.net/url2/urlmanage/url.asp?id=5 (file missing)
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: 易趣购物 - {DE607143-AC19-423e-866A-6D70ABDF119A} - http://click2.ad4all.net/url2/urlmanage/url.asp?id=5 (file missing)
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: (no name) - {DEDEB80D-FA35-45d9-9460-4983E5A8AFE6} - E:\QQ2004\QQIEHelper.dll
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: QQ炫彩工具条设置 - {DEDEB80D-FA35-45d9-9460-4983E5A8AFE6} - E:\QQ2004\QQIEHelper.dll
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{116E1A52-D1DF-47A8-998B-007BECA80CFB}: NameServer = 202.101.98.55,202.101.98.54
O21 - SSODL: SysTime - {724C75F1-B757-408D-A50A-4CF99DA35D73} - C:\PROGRA~1\WinKld\WinKld.dll
O23 - NT 服务: Ati HotKey Poller - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - NT 服务: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - NT 服务: aukld - Unknown owner - e:\MYDOCU~1\Temp\aukld1\aukld1.exe (file missing)
O23 - NT 服务: Rising Process Communication Center (RsCCenter) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\CCenter.exe
O23 - NT 服务: RsRavMon Service (RsRavMon) - Beijing Rising Technology Co., Ltd. - C:\Program Files\rising\Rav\Ravmond.exe

帮我看看有没问题啊
mopery - 2006-7-16 17:47:00
【回复“非妳吥可”的帖子】
修复
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe,C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Crypto\fafbce.exe
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {669751ED-D558-49AE-B01A-3B374CC7910E} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ssup.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll (file missing)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [zmuy9s5p] RunDll32 "C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\zmuy9s5p.dll",Run
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [jiuwl2ig] RunDll32 "C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\jiuwl2ig.dll",Run
O21 - SSODL: SysTime - {724C75F1-B757-408D-A50A-4CF99DA35D73} - C:\PROGRA~1\WinKld\WinKld.dll
删除
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Crypto\fafbce.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ssup.dll
C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\zmuy9s5p.dll
C:\WINDOWS\Downlo~1\jiuwl2ig.dll
C:\PROGRA~1\WinKld

安全模式用超级兔子清理王卸载一下流氓软件..
mopery - 2006-7-16 17:48:00
【回复“郭郭gg”的帖子】
修复
O2 - BHO: YDragSearch - {62EED7C6-9F02-42f9-B634-98E2899E147B} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\ASSIST~1\Assist\YDRAGS~1.DLL (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Vision - {6671A431-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O3 - IE工具栏增项: (no name) - {E0E899AB-F487-11D5-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - (no file)
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: >> 彩信发送 << - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\Mmsass~1.dll/mms.htm
O8 - IE右键菜单中的新增项目: >>彩信发送<< - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll/mms.htm
O9 - 浏览器额外的按钮: (no name) - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O9 - 浏览器额外的“工具”菜单项: 彩E精灵设置 - {6671A433-5C3D-463d-A7CF-5587F9B7E191} - C:\PROGRA~1\MMSASS~1\mmsass~1.dll
O21 - SSODL: SysTime - {724C75F1-B757-408D-A50A-4CF99DA35D73} - C:\PROGRA~1\WinKld\WinKld.dll
O23 - NT 服务: aukld - Unknown owner - e:\MYDOCU~1\Temp\aukld1\aukld1.exe (file missing)


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猪知山 - 2006-9-18 21:21:00
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